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it is fantastic opportunity. >> thank you. >> joy: thank you, honey. thanks to all of my guests tomorrow. tomorrow gilbert gottfried and robert [ inaudible ] will both be here. >> can i come tomorrow. >> cenk: welcome to "the young turks." so barring a major miracle. i'm calling the election right now. it's already over. >> is romney slightly ahead over the president that's a dramatic shift. shift. >> cenk: oops, is it panic time? we'll show you that segment in just a minute. you'll find out if its panic time or not. in the show we have more g.o.p. voter fraud, and you have to wonder if it makes sense banning people from voting. >> i served my time. i'm back. so why can't i vote? i live under the laws that they passed but i can't vote with
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regards to those laws and the people who passed them. >> cenk: and we have jon stewart versus bill o'reilly. debate of the century? >> i'm not giving up to anything. >> cenk: that's awesome. what lessons can we learn from that. that's on tonight's show. and we haven't even got to the insane republicans yet. they say you know what? the flavor was not so bad. we talk about how you should execute disobedient children, and he's not kidding. and on top of that we have not even gotten to the elbows of the day. that's something else. oh, it's a hell of a show. and it's go time. [ ♪ music ♪ ] >> romney: hope has not been a strategy. >> i've been waiting for 20
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years for this speech. >> he has made mistakes. >> it all seems abstract. >> obama: the united states has conducted an operation that killed osama bin laden. >> i acknowledge the president's success and i think he has every right to take credit. >> this president's policies have not been equal to global leadership. >> obama campaign releasing a new ad. >> reckless, amateurish. >> he has been erratic. >> a new poll showing romney slightly ahead. >> the new poll. >> conservatives are saying we're not going fight with him now. we're going to wait until after the election. >> cenk: now, you all remember the good ol' days, before the first presidential debate when president obama was comfortably up. in a gallup poll he was up by five points. and a certain talk show host
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made this prediction. >> so barring a major miracle i'm calling the election right now. it's already over. >> cenk: oops. the gallup poll out today 47%-47%. for those of you math-challenged, that would be a tie. what did i say again? it's already over. >> cenk: oh, boy. now, that was just one poll. i have other polls for you. gallup, as i just showed you the 47-47 post debate. rasmussen 49-47 but that's rasmussen. polite co-,an one-point lead for president obama. when you put that all together it is not good news. what did i say again? >> it's already over.
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>> cenk: oops. okay, it gets worse. pew out today. 45-49--the fore four-point lead--disaster. what did that idiot say? >> cenk: it's already over. >> cenk: 12 different poll versus romney going up on average 4.5% since the debate give it to me one more time. >> it's already over. >> cenk: okay, now i'm going to show you why you shouldn't panic and why that idiot talk show host is not wrong. but first i got to say something more important. i've said like many other pundits that president obama lost that debate. and he clearly did. you look at the polls from all these different organizations they say he lost from 32 to 42 points. but i don't want to equate two
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things and get them confused. a tactical victory and a debate for mitt romney does not mean you should vote for him. it doesn't mean that he's right. nice job on the debate the tactics, and president obama i can't believe you screwed that up. look at all those lies, why didn't you attack him. it doesn't mean that he's telling the truth and it doesn't mean that president obama is not accurate in what he says is his policies and numbers. i look at these numbers, i think, oh my god there are people who accidently believe that that good debate was reality. the reason why president obama had a bad debate is because he could not clearly show that mitt romney does not live in a reality-based world. now i'm getting pissed. look, i don't mean you should vote for romney. to me that is so obvious right? but apparently it's not obvious to people at home.
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that's why president obama has to do a much better job at these debates because they aren't theoretical. they're not patty cakes. it causes people to vote for the other guy. nonetheless, don't panic average all the polls that obama is up 48-47%. it's not a big lead but it's still a lead. and the swing states. well, if obama has the lead of over 2.5 percentage points that means its still comfortably in his category. you have wisconsin, nevada iowa and ohio. if he wins those those are comfortable leads for the moment being in those states, then he gets 290 electoral votes. he needs 270 and he wins comfortably. will he get those swing states? well, "huffington post"," their pollster did an analyst
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according to the polls he still has a 91% chance of winning in ohio and 71% chance in winning in colorado. those are incredible good numbers. the presidential pick, these are the guys who are in the market who is been to win this is people voting with their money. president obama still has his as you can tell, a two-thirds chance of winning according to those guys. in the end this guy might have gotten it right after all. okay, that would have been me saying it's over. you got it. now, i do want to say however it would be nice if president obama didn't lose the next debate. that would be very helpful. let me bring in two guys who can help me with this. we have michael shure as always our epic politics man and cliff who wrote the book on
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john mccain, and he works for the guardian online and michael let me start with you. a lot of disastrous polls there but there is one that is trending in president obama's favor. >> i would not say that it's trending in the president's favor. what it is is, it's called a rolling poll. where they add a day and take a day away that was seven days away and they do that poll on a daily basis. that has the president up by five points. the day before the debate, the day of the debate, and the post debate information. but included in that information is the post jobs report. if you really want to reach for a branch you're a democrat, and those are the jobs numbers. that's five points up. i think first of all the debates matter. i think we tucked about this. >> cenk: you're going to rub it in. >> i'm not going to rub it in, but i'm going to say if you're
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going to play a tape of you calling the race, here is another videotape. >> it's about what they mean to the campaign: i think they mean quite a lot. >> cenk: i don't think it will change the campaign at all. >> all right we're going to do this all day long? is this my show? what's going on here? cliff, is it panic time? >> no, the rasmussen poll shows up by two points and michael just pointed out the economical numbers. when we got together and put together the numbers we did a hell of a job cooking everything for. when people saw those job numbers and the media reaction, that starts to bring it back. yeah they have a bounce of one or two points that may be permanent, but it's not where they're tied or romney is ahead. >> cenk: understand that a lot of these polls that we just showed you showed romney gains 4.5% on average, they were post
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debates. when they do, things look a lot rosier. can president obama lose if he continues to get his ass kicked in the debates tactically. >> you have to look at what the ohio numbers look like. you see michigan tightens right away. if ohio starts to tighten up, and mitt romney begins to make a play in ohio, then i would begin to panic. i think ohio is the place to look. >> i say the same thing. having spent time there, i would say, look, the mood there, i've seen the police, the firefighters fraternal order of police the firefighters sat out for the first time to endorse since 9. '96. and then you see the auto bailout, and he may have lost a few points there.
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but you have this cushion of the types of voters that he has in other place. these midwestern white voters who think emotionally from the auto bailout that obama is on their side. i don't think it will get there. >> cenk: that is a great analysis of ohio. cliff happens to live in ohio that's pretty convenient. i want the audience to understand as long as ohio is still comfortably in president obama's camp when then we're in good shape. if it gets dicey in ohio, then ring the bell and its time to panic. mitt romney had a foreign policy speech and i want to rip it to shreds. >> i hope the president hopes for a safer freer prosperous middle east, along with us. i share this hope. but hope is not a strategy. >> cenk: yeah, i'm coming for you, mitt. we'll talk about that speech and what nonsense it was. and then bill o'reilly and jon
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stewart are coming for each other. >> my friend bill o'reilly is fleetly full of. [ bleep ] be a nurse. after being a nurse for about twenty years i decided that i need to further my education. my masters degree was done completely online and that gave me the freedom and ability to do my education while i raised my kids and worked full time. raising my kids as a single mom and having them see me get my education online and work full-time has given them the opportunity to see that they can do anything that they want to. i'm currently the hospital administrator for two public hospitals.
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we serve patients who might not otherwise get care. i teach an online nursing program. i feel that i'm giving back something to the nurses that are attempting to get their bachelors degree like i did. doing online education is something that i suggest to many, many people.
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[ ♪ theme music ♪ ] >> cenk: mitt romney finally gave his big foreign policy speech, and i want to go to work, so i let's get started. >> romney: i know the president hopes for a safer freer prosperous middle east alive with us. i share this hope. but hope is not a strategy. we cannot support our friends and defeat our enemies in the middle east when our words are not backed up by deeds. when our defense is arbitrarily and deeply cut and we have no trade agenda to speak of, and
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our partnership is not one of passivity. >> obama: the united states conducted an operation that killed owe as much bin laden. >> cenk: george w. bush and the loser dick cheney had eight years to get bin laden and push took a month off that's passivity. when you kill bin laden and put him in the bottom of the ocean that is not passivity. by the way he we also got into a war with libya and gadhafi is dead. that cost us zero soldiers. shut your mouth, mitt romney. you don't know a thing about foreign policy. so what is he going to do? his main strategy s okay, i got it. let's spit in everybody's eyes and encourage more war. this is him saying that in code words, watch. >> romney: it's time to change course in the middle east. that course should be organized around thighs bedrock
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principles. america must have confidence in our cause clarity in our purpose, and resolve in our might. no friend of america will question our commitment to support them. no enemy that attacks america will question our resolve to defeat them. and no one anywhere, friend or foe, will doubt america's capability to back up our words. >> cenk: in other words, if anyone even looks at us the wrong way let's start another war in the middle east! that sounds like a brilliant strategy. remember libya zero american troops killed. iraq over 5,000 killed for that needless war why? saddam hussein. we don't like that go. where are the weapons of mass production, you losers! where was the connection to 9/11? nothing. you know who did 9/11? bin laden, do you know where he is now? bottom of the ocean.
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here are the six specific things that he mentioned in his speech. increase and tighten sanctions against iran. wow, you want to get tougher with iran. if mitt romney you can look forward to that invasion. aircraft carrier group in the mediterranean and the gulf. great, more war. and condition eight to egypt. okay, a thing about that. now it's an easy thing to say. if you don't do what we're going to do, we're going to take our money away. that makes sense. and i would agree with that as well. they have a peace deal with israel we're going to take that money away. you want to ruin the peace deal that egypt has with israel? that's what you want to do, you thoughtless simple ton? and then he said, i want to recommit america. in write you thought you should give up on the peace process. we'll get back to that in a
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minute. and then support syria as opposition groups that share american values, great more war. we'll get back to syria in a second. and i love this. he says, president obama did in afghanistan was totally political and i want to withdraw troops by 2014. what happened, mitt? this is the same idiot who argued we should stay in iraq. if you want to stay in iraq, veto for mitt romney. this is disastrous foreign policy. wait a minute, were you for going into libya or not for going into libya. and you want to talk about dictators, i can't believe obama
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gadhafi. which one is it, mitt? and when you talk about that, palestine-israel is perfect. here's what he said in his speech today. >> finally i would recommit america to the goal of a democratic prosperous palestinian state living side by side in peace and security with the jewish state of israel. on this vital issue the president has failed and it has dissolve in the heated disfoots at the u.n. >> cenk: that's what he said in public. am i not merciful, fine, let's have two states. remember what he said in private. when meeting with fundraisers this is what he said about peace in the area. >> the palestinians have no interest whatsoever in establishing peace and that the pathway to peace is almost unthinkable to accomplish.
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>> cenk: so what he tells his donors behind the scenes, peace is unthinkable. we won't even bother trying. he's not even bothering thinking about it. watch this part of the donor meeting. >> on the other hand i got a call from a former secretary of state, and i won't mention which one it was but this individual said to me you know, i think there is a prospect for a settlement between the palestinians and the israelis after the palestinian election. i said, really? and you know, his answer was yes, i think there's such a prospect. i didn't delve into it. >> cenk: you didn't delve into it? if the secretary of state calls you and said i have the solution to peace in the middle east yeah i'll get back with you dawg. how indifferent are you to foreign policy. and what is his answer? watch. >> the idea of pushing on the israelis to give something up, to get the palestinians to act
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is the worst idea in the world. we've done that time and time again. it does not work. so the only answer is to show your strength, again. >> cenk: the only thing that they understand is strength! they've been occupied for 60 years. i think they get your force of strength. it's not like they're confused on that issue. of course, though, it's the republican ideology which is strength! we crush them! we go to war in the middle east! shoot, we screwed this up. that's mitt romney. if you vote for this guy you'll have endless wars. on that alone you you'd be mental to vote for him. and finally all mitt romney has offered is bluster and plat attitudes. he as erratically shifted positions on every major foreign policy issue including
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intervening in libya which he was against before he was for it. this guy does not know a thing about foreign policy. the only thing we understand on the stance of these issues is there is an excellent chance for another disastrous war in the middle east. now when we come back we're going to talk about more voter fraud, and does it make any sense to not have fell felons able to vote in many states. >> you work for the county clerks office? >> i believe so, yes. >> you're only registering republicans. >> nope. >> you said you're only trying to register romney people. >> we're trying to. >> cenk: oops. more on that when we come back. and later in the program, jack welch, what a clown. now they've got a new conspiracy theory. >> do you want to take that back? >> no, i don't want to take back one word in that tweet.
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>> cenk: now 19 different states have passed laws that say we need voter i.d. because there is rampant democratic voter fraud. now in a pennsylvania case when asked to provide a single piece of evidence that in was voter fraud they couldn't do it. not a single piece of evidence. does that mean there is not voter fraud in the country? there is gigantic republican
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voter fraud. a guy was paid $21 million by the republican party since 2004. they have asked him to do voter registrations with a high degree of impropriety over and over again. the republicans told them, change the name of your company a couple of times so those earlier names have been tainted by fraud. it started in florida and they're thinking of doing a criminal investigation in florida on his voter fraud and other swing states like colorado where this young girl was caught working and doing voter fraud. >> who are you registering, all voters? >> i'm trying to register people for particular parties because we're out here in support of romney actually. >> you're working for the county clerk's office. >> i believe so, yes. >> you're only registering republicans? >> nope. >> you said we're only registering romney people.
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>> we're trying to. >> cenk: they said that the there is voter fraud in florida. if your address has changed you can't vote. they changed party affiliation and they registered dead people. all the things they accused the democrats of doing when the democrats didn't do it, and the republicans did it. they're unbelievable. there is a different group entirely called true the vote. what are they doing? they're trying to make sure that people don't vote. but not everybody just the people who live in these particular areas. if they are students, if they are trailer park residents. how do you like that one? if they're homeless people, if they're african-americans--of course. elijah cummings, a long time not just civil rights activist but congressman said if these efforts are intentional politically motivated and widespread across multi it will states they could amount to a criminal conspiracy to deny legitimate voters their constitutional rights. now, you have got to worry about
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the voter fraud that the republicans are doing. you got to worry about the people that they're trying to disenfranchise. one group that has been doing this for a long time is convicted felons. in 12 different states they're not allowed to vote at all. these murderers, of course we should not allow them back into civil society. first of all, they served their time. second of all they're not all murderers and rapist. >> last year i was able to vote in the state of indiana because that's where i was residing at the time but i recently relocated back to virginia. where in the state of virginia there are 450,000 who are formerly incarcerated people and formerly i'm having to go through a waiting period. i put in an application to have my rights restored in august, and unfortunately i have not received a response. i speak for the practically
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6 million disenfranchised people across the country who are afforded the opportunity to vote. in my opinion it's something that should be a basic fundamental human rights. once people have served their debt to society there should be automatic retore ration of voting rights? >> cenk: how many of you have done non-violent drug offense. all those people should not be allowed to vote? you know who has done non-violent drug offenses? president obama, president bush, you keep going back and you see where you stop. not only were they allowed to vote, they were allowed to become president of the united states of america. someone who has been studying this is lisa bloom and she joins us now. a lot of people, lisa, will go, well they're felons, what do you do? how do you answer? >> we're talking about 6 million americans who are legally barred from voting. in some states this is one in four african-american men are bar ready voting.
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these are people who have served their time. they're tax-paying citizens credibilitying to the economy and many are veterans and they should not be prevented from voting. >> cenk: a lot of republicans will turn around and say democrats, they want criminals to vote and that's why they want the criminal vote. that sucks. that's ugly, but it might be politically effective. how do you get beyond that? >> first of all let's consider who we're talking about. half of these people, as you point out are non-violent drug offenders. are we to say that for the rest of their lives, which is the law in many states, for the rest of their lives they're barred from voting? and is anyone deterred from committing a crime because they won't be able to vote for four years after coming out of prison? i don't think that will deter anyone. iceland, a country i just visited which has a low incarceration rate compared to us. in iceland and many european
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countries, not only can inmates vote, they can vote while in prison. they're encouraged to vote. why? they encourage them to remain connected to their community. they're still citizens of that country. they want them to look at what is going on and be a part of it. and they have far low recidivism because people remain connected. they keep those connection to those communities. >> cenk: and their economy is booming. oops. >> and they have the highest rate of child literacy. and low incarceration. and there is a clear connection between those two. >> cenk: i love the point that you gave about incentives. guys about to commit a crime. i'm going to stab this dude, but on the other hand i won't be able to vote later. who has ever said that in the history of america.
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i want to show you more examples. this guy in virginia who is not allowed to vote. >> former city councilman turned civil rights activist is a felon of tax evasion and he makes no bones about it. >> i have been strip offed my right to vote and hold public office. now he's fighting to getel felonsget felonsand convicted felons in the lawsuit. he's asking the judge to rule on his argument that the felon disenfranchisement is unconstitutional in virginia. >> so what that means is that every person, even in prison will have their rights restored. >> cenk: so it's an interesting point. finally on the issue of civil rights here. a lot of people argue that our
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incarceration of african-americans is a new form of jim crow. is this a way of disenfranchising by another name. >> there is no question. i've written a book on this in some length. there is no question. even though african-americans and whites have about the same level of drug use and drug selling overwhelmingly it's african-americans who are prosecutorprosecutorred, who get these long sentences and then when they come out, there is a connection between civil rights and felony disenfranchisement. how can we allow to get rid of jim crow laws, how can we allow so many african-americans be legally barred from voting. i think it's a crying shame and one of the final chapters in the civil rights movement that needs
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writing. >> cenk: thank you for joining us. florida, iowa, nevada, ohio, very important states. go out and register by tomorrow. >> all this talk about evolution and numbology the big bang theory. all of those are lies. >> cenk: but that's the moderate one. i got two more for you when we come back. one says--two of them say, it was a blessing in disguise. today they say that, and we should execute kids who are disobedient to their parents. he's not kidding. then we have the elbow of the day. guess who that is at@ask tyt on current.
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>> cenk: representative paul brown is the united states
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congressman. last month he was speaking to the liberty baptist church sportsman banquet when he had an interesting point to make on evolution. listen to this. >> i was talking about evolution, numerology and the big bang that is all lies scraped from the pit of hell. lies to keep those from understanding that they need a favor. >> cenk: amen. i remainder when beelzebub came up with that plot. i got it. let's pretend there are dinosaurs, and make huge bones of them and bury them in the ground. that's a good one high five with lucifer, i don't know if beelzebub and lucifer are two different dudes. now paul brown will educate us on how old the earth is. >> there is a lot of scientific
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data that actually shows that this is a young earth. >> cenk: is it? let's find out how young it is. >> i believe the earth is about 9,000 years old. i believe it was created in six days and we know this. that's what the bible says. >> cenk: oh, yeah, absolutely. created on tuesday. doesn't the background look like it's straight from the pits of hell? it looks like scary stuff oh, we're coming to get you. this dude is on the committee of science and technology. as would say he's from the tech-mology committee. and you know who else is on that committee? todd akin. all these guys from congress, i got t this is a good one. this is when lucifer burned the dinosaur bones. let's put the dumbest guys on
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the science and technology committee. if you think that's bad we're just warming up. a book with letters to the edit editor. the constitution of slavery to the black race has long believed to be an abomination upon its people. may actually have been a blessing in disguise. the blacks who could endure those conditions and circumstances would some day be rewarded with citizenship in the greatest nation ever established upon the face of the earth. oh, i don't know why i didn't see it that way? it's a blessing in disguise. why don't you be my slave and you do all my work. if you don't i'll whip you. does that sound like a blessing in disguise? and how hot is your wife? i might want to have sex with her. and what about your daughters. should have i sex with them before i sell them off to a different state. that's what you call a blessing in disguise? you ass. slavery is a blessing in
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disguise? is this the year 2012, how bang wardbackward is this party. well, the next republican is going to help me. arkansas state representative lloyd monch. here's what he said about slavery. if slavery were so god-awful why didn't jesus or paul condemn it? why was it in the constitution and why wasn't there a war before 1861. sometimes it seems like mitt romney thinks the good ol' days is the 1950s. this guy thinks the good ol' days is the 1850s. he thinks that abraham lincoln was one of the worst presidents we ever had and tried to kill the constitution. gee, i can't figure out why they can't get african-american votes. and then there is charlie buqe. first of all he thinks all the muslims in the country should be
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expelled and that muslim and liberals have one thing in common they're the antichrist--of course. he writes, the maintenance of civil order in society rests on the foundation of family discipline. therefore, a child who disrespects his parents should be permanently removed from society to give all other children the importance of respect for their parents. the death penalty for rebellious children is not something to be taken lightly. yeah executing your own kids. i wouldn't take that lightly either. he's not kidding. he's not done either. he says, look, to be fair we got to be careful with this. one last quote. this passage does not give parents blanket authority to kill their children. they must follow the proper procedure. oh i didn't know they were going to follow a proper procedure, then by all means. these lunatics are a legitimate party in the united states of
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america. these cave men these neanderthals where to them slavery was remember, remember the good ol' days when you could execute your kids for being disobedient? who in their right mind would vote for these guys? when we come back, a real fun debate. the debate of the century. bill o'reilly versus jon stewart stewart. what lessons we can learn from that debate. >> give me my back money from the iraq war bring on the house. (vo) always outspoken, now unleashed, joy behar. >> on my next show, i'll talk to tyne daly. she won the prestigious rush limbaugh's worst nightmare award. i don't think
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washington university. you can watch it for $4.95. highly entertaining. they billed it as the reason why al gore invented the interpret. just so you can watch this. gore was omnipresent part of this debate as you'll see in a second. but what i thought was interesting was the lessons we could learn from this debate. first, let's show you how jon stewart started the debate.. [ laughing ] >> cenk: see what is great about jon stewart and the daily show is how they show reality while making fun of it. do appearances matter? of course, he's 5'7", bill o'reilly towers over him at 6'4". he said, you know what, i'm going to even the odds. keep that in mind and nixon
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sweating up a storm didn't help him in the kennedy debate. and one more reference to podiums. >> i can see why obama did badly in the debate. the altitude is really bad up here. >> cenk: how many gore references are are you going to make. you have to know when to be self deprecating and how to and when to attack. >> my friend, bill o'reilly, is completely full of. [ bleep ] >> i have come here tonight to plead to the mayor of. [ bleep bull-bleep-mountain. [laughter] talk to your people. >> cenk: how much would you have loved it if president obama had done that? bringing in my rowdy friends ana kasparian, michael shure you better not run any more clips, michael, and jayar jackson, they're all here. let me show you one more clip,
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and we'll break this down. this is again jon stewart talking about different costs and different priorities. here watch. >> give me my money back, the $800 billion to the iraq war and children's television, bring on the house. >> cenk: michael, let me ask you a simple question. why can't obama do this. >> so much more is at stake. >> cenk: so you have to be a worse debater. >> he's not a very good debater to begin with, and jon stewart has a lot less to be nervous about. he's on television every single night with arguments that aren't even there. inin a fantasy land it would be great to do what jon stewart did, but if you're president of the united states, you would lose in a second. >> cenk: you think he would lose. >> no, but here is the problem. bill o'reilly is having fun with it too. but this is the problem.
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the fact that you have to go to a comedic purpose and entertaining level to get attention from voters to get the actual vote because the intelligence and the thought process of our country has gotten so low. i liked it, but in order for real politics to work we have to become entertain efforts which is fine for them but not for the political party. >> cenk: i disagree. if you're more entertaining you'll get more people to watch the debate and get people on your side. jon stewart makes the points while being entertaining is real point. >> when you need something, it's an entightment. when they need something, it's hey man, it is what it is. why is it when you're taking advantage of a tax break and you're a businessman you're a businessman. but if you're taking advantage of something you're a moocher.
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>> cenk: ana. >> it might be entertaining, but it's substantive. when i was watching the debates that's what i do for a living. i have to pay attention to those things. i have a hard time doing it because it's so boring. the candidates have to be so polite. right there you see stewart's passion. you see he's being persuasive. why obama can't be like that? i understand the stress and pressure, it's a huge part of it, but obama has to be as respectful as possible, mitt romney has to be respectful. they can't raise their voices. i can't stand that about our debates. >> obama could have been better than he was. he'll never be jon stewart. he'll never strife to be jon stewart. but that's a great point about mooching and entitlements. that's great but he can't deliver it from standing on an apple cart to be higher and he can't joke. >> you'll always get people who
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will tear someone down. the small things that happen in debates, why didn't he do that? he should lose. >> cenk: but this in a debate um um, um, last one. i got to go--all right we're out of time. any way it was funny. watch it online. [laughter] thank you, guys. eleliot, what do you have for us next. >> eliot: you didn't have to cut to me? i was listening. didn't you and i say the presidential race was over last week? >> cenk: you're going to remind me of that again? >> eliot: you persuaded me that have fact. we have to eat crow. this is a new game. we'll talk about that, foreign policy this is the issue of the moment. did mitt romney say anything today or was it all sizzle, no steak. we've got stephen barton, one of the victims in the aurora shooting horror, and he'll put pressure on the presidential candidate on gun control. we've got a lot of issues coming up. >> cenk: looking forward for t eliot, and by the way, it's
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>> cenk: the bureau of labor statistics came out last week and said that unemployment had gone down from 8.1% to 7.8%. and all the cooks came out kooks came out and said it was a conspiracy. and jack saying unbelieve jobs numbers. these chicago guys know about changing numbers. he should know because g.e. had to pay a fine for cooking their books for a decade under jack
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welch. and he went to justify it, and didn't work out for him. >> if it was jimmying with these numbers. >> i don't want to take back one word in that tweet. i have no evidence to corruption. >> these chicago guys had nothing to do with the numbers. >> i don't know that. >> cenk: i don't know that. i just want more money. all right, rick santelli the tea party clown said, i told you they would get the number under 8%, i don't know how they do it, but i do. you know how they compile the numbers? they do it in a lock-down state. the information is confidential, you clown. they said this, a movement like this could have so much power
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